Upper Cervical Chiropractic & Hot Flashes

Upper Cervical Chiropractic & Hot Flashes

Hot flashes completely gone following NUCCA Chiropractic care. Upper Cervical Chiropractic Care indicated for potential treatment.

Upper Cervical Chiropractic Research Show #012a – Chiropractic Deep Dive Podcast – Resolution of Hot Flashes in a 57 Year-Old Female Undergoing Upper Cervical Subluxation Based NUCCA Chiropractic Care: A Case Report – Jason Slagel

Without a doubt, upwards of 99% of women who suffer from Hot Flashes don’t know about NUCCA or Upper Cervical Chiropractic as a potential treatment. This episode is to spread the knowledge that it could make a huge impact on those suffering with Hot Flashes. We hope you enjoy. Let us know if you have any questions!!

– To Your Health

Dr. Kevin Leach

Dr. Leach:  Hot flashes gone with NUCCA Upper Cervical
Chiropractic care. A potential mechanism of how Dr. Slagel and I discuss his
research and more on The Upper Cervical Chiropractic Research Show. I’ve also
done an interview and summary video you can find on the channel if you’d like
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so so much. I truly appreciate your support now on to the show. Okay welcome
back everyone to The Upper Cervical Chiropractic Research Show this is Episode
12. I am Dr. Kevin Leach and I’m here once again with Dr. Jason Slagel author
of today’s research we’ll be reviewing. So Dr. Slagel is a NUCCA doctor who
practices in South Florida. Dr. Slagel has his level 1 NUCCA certification and
currently working on his level 2. And he’s the proud husband and father of two
little boys and pregnant wife at home. Thank you for joining me again, sir. How
are you?

Dr. Slagel:  I’m doing great it’s great to be back.

Dr. Leach:  Awesome. Good to have you, sir. So today’s
research review is titled Resolution of Hot Flashes in a 57 Year Old Female
Undergoing Upper Cervical Subluxation Based NUCCA Chiropractic Care the Case
Report and again this is by Dr. Jason Slagel published in The Journal of Upper
Cervical Chiropractic Research a McCoy Press. So I know we were talking just
before the recording here doc about just why you wrote this up and the
interesting findings. You want to just give us again an overview of what just
what this is about?

Dr. Slagel:  Yeah. Absolutely so this is more – this is less
of like me taking a stance I think this is what happened. It’s more so like a
hey something happened let’s just take a look at it and sort of bring it to
people’s attention so we can all kind of keep an eye on this together and maybe
put some ideas together. I mean, I have my theory but I’m not married to my
theory. So yeah. We can talk about that but it’s a little bit more ambiguous I
guess and more like that just dipping our toes into it.

Dr. Leach:  Hey that’s what research is for right? So
hypotheses and asking questions and seeing what answers we can get. So why
don’t you give us just a little bit of about the background about the hot
flashes and just you know who has them and what not.

Dr. Slagel:  Yeah. So hot flashes are pretty benign right. So
if you get hot flashes you’re not at like risk for a death or it’s not a
disease or anything. It’s the most common symptom in the menopausal process and
some people view it as a problem, some people view it as natural. You know that
I think it’s kind of out for debate but the it’s interesting to me because the
people who are affected classically according to the research people who are
affected most by hot flashes are obese women, smoking women, and African
American women. Okay. So the patient that I had who’s hot flashes went away was
Caucasian, fit, and lean and never smoked. Okay. So I’m thinking possibly if
this same woman would have had the same misalignment, the same subluxation, all
that stuff and I adjusted her except for she had all those risk factors then
maybe the hot flashes wouldn’t have went away. So it’s just like there’s all
these questions that I have about it.

Dr. Leach:  Got it.

Dr. Slagel:  But this lady was having ten hot flashes a day
and after a few weeks her hot flashes all stopped. She hasn’t had any hot flashes
since. So pretty interesting. Yeah.

Dr. Leach:  So with with hot flashes, you know, you hear and
we learned that it’s hormonally related. What are your thoughts on if it’s
hormonally related why would the obesity – and again I would have my theories
to – obesity, smoking, and African American – the African American one I’m not
sure about that one – but obese and smoking those definitely affect hormones.
But any ideas on African American? Why that would be more so?

Dr. Slagel:  I honestly have no idea.

Dr. Leach:  Okay. But in the research that shows that’s a
risk factor.

Dr. Slagel:  Yeah. For some reason it’s a trend. It’s a risk
factor for some reason.

Dr. Leach:  Got it. Okay. Well, why don’t you give us just a
little bit more history about your patient and tell us what happened.

Dr. Slagel:  Yes. So she was 57 years old and she came to me
for sciatic pain was her main thing. Hot flashes weren’t really – she didn’t
really – we talked a little bit about it but it wasn’t really a thing. She
mostly came to me for sciatic pain. So at six weeks her sciatic pain was at fifty
percent which is cool. Pretty good improvement and that’s when she first told
me, at six weeks, that her hot flashes were gone. Hold on. Wait. What?

Dr. Leach:  She never said anything about it prior?

Dr. Slagel:  No. No. It wasn’t her main concern so it’s not
what we talked about on her daily visits. So that one kind of blindsided me and
I had to start thinking through like what could be going on with that you know
is it just a coincidence, which it very well could be, or is it something
physiological that happened that allowed that to sort of balance back out.

Dr. Leach:  Before I forget I want to interject with a crazy
story I had about hot flashes. When I was – let’s see this is probably…

Dr. Slagel:  Did your hot flashes go away?

Dr. Leach:  No, my hot flashes did not go away. However I had
a patient, I want to say eight years ago, he was an ex-captain of the police.
So he was your alpha-male “take no crap from anybody.” He was having
hot flashes. He was having hot flashes several times a day. We’re talking 15-20
times a day. He had been to medical doctors, all kinds of people, and then he
came again for neck pain or something you know he came in the office and one of
his main one – he had neck pain or some other condition but his number two
or three were these hot flashes that just nobody could figure out. And after
the first adjustment they were almost all gone and then after the second one
never came back.

Dr. Slagel:  Okay.

Dr. Leach:  He was obviously happy but he was angry because
he was like, “None of these doctors, none of these specialists, nobody I
went to helped me out with this thing. And then you move this little bone in my
neck and it helps.”

Dr. Slagel:  It’s funny when I did my literature review, when
I wrote up this paper, I didn’t see that one. Did I miss it?

Dr. Leach:  No. No. We didn’t. That’s anecdotal. That’s just
a patient I had years ago. I didn’t write it up or anything.

Dr. Slagel:  That’s too bad because I feel like these things
happen but then people are just kind of like meh. Like okay cool and then they
move on. If we were actually reporting these things I feel like a lot of NUCCA
doctors have stories like that.

Dr. Leach:  Yeah.

Dr. Slagel:  Okay. It’s a conversation that needs to start
happening because the reason that I decided to write it up was because I
think that this opens the door to a bigger conversation. A more important
conversation than hot flashes. Hot flashes are cool if we can get rid of hot
flashes women everywhere will love us but the bigger idea with health and
physiology is not with the hot flashes in particular but with hormone
regulation. Right and that’s the thing that I was thinking through this seems
like a peek through the door and we need to open up the door and look what’s
going on with this. Can I go into a possible mechanism?

Dr. Leach:  Absolutely.

Dr. Slagel:  So I don’t know, have you read this book “The
Downside of Upright Posture?”

Dr. Leach: No but Dr. Evans and I have discussed it and it’s
on it’s on my reading list.

Dr. Slagel:  Okay. Bump it up higher on your reading list
because it absolutely blew my mind and then Michael Flanagan’s second book.
This one’s a lot. This one’s super dense and super heavy nice “Craniospinal
Hydrodynamics in Neurodegenerative and Neurological Disorders.” Okay so both of
them mind-blowing. Okay so based off of that that stuff that Michael Flannigan
wrote up I’m thinking something along these lines; the head and neck get
shifted out of place there’s the misalignment the subluxation and it affects
hemodynamics and hydrodynamics in the head and in the spine. So CSF flow and
blood flow in and out of the head is affected. Which is easily shown in any
study. So then what happens with a baby let’s say the CSF is not draining out
of the head properly is the head starts to swell out because the skull is
infused, we call that hydrocephalus or water head. Right. So then with an adult
the skull is fused so instead of that pressure pushing the skull outward it
actually starts crushing the brain inward. Okay. So we call it in an adult
where that’s happening over time chronically would call it normal pressure
hydrocephalus. Yes, it’s a type of hydrocephalus but it’s normal pressure so
what happens is inside the skull if you would measure the pressure inside the
skull at any point it’d be normal normal pressure hydrocephalus but there’s
more and more CSF being backed up in the head and it’s crushing the brain in.
Now depending on where that happens to impact the brain is where you’re going
to start to see symptoms showing up. Okay so what Michael Flanagan is saying is
that this is probably linked to things like dementia – alzheimer’s things like
that. MS is a big one. The demyelination. So all of those things probably this
is one of the players going on and I’m thinking that with hot flashes this
could also be a player going on. Because you have the pituitary and
hypothalamus controlling regulating hormones and if that normal pressure
hydrocephalus happens to be impacting that area of the brain you’re going to
have dysregulation of hormones and they’re going to be just like going haywire.
And then you have hot flashes and things like that. So I’m leaning towards that
type of an explanation which I think can be a really cool investigation for
people to do that are much smarter than me and have really crazy awesome
technology that can measure those things.

Dr. Leach:  Right and I love as much as probably you love the
idea and knowing the mechanism of this, however; I think a really big takeaway
potentially for any woman suffering with hot flashes is that hey we’re not
saying it’s gonna get rid of them but it potentially could. NUCCA care or upper
cervical chiropractic care.

Dr. Slagel:  Yeah if a woman would ask me if I can help with
her hot flashes my response would be NUCCA has helped with hot flashes before
why not again.

Dr. Leach:  Right.

Dr. Slagel:  I don’t know.

Dr. Leach:  Yeah.

Dr. Slagel:  The other explanation that I
think is a lot more simple that most NUCCA doctors would tend to gravitate
towards is more of an explanation of biomechanical stability. So if the person
has their head and neck shifted out of place and it’s causing a certain posture
pattern to develop in their body. Then their energy resources have to go to
staying upright and once you get this fixed and their body straightens up they
have all that extra energy to go towards healing in their body and regulation
and stuff like that. Which is also a good theory. I just wonder if that’s all
of it.

Dr. Leach: And that’s the traditional chiropractic because
traditional chiropractic is our neuromuscular skeletal system. Right. There’s
chiropractic subluxation in our spine. Is it going to affect the nervous
system? That’s traditional chiropractic but as we’ve seen lately with Dr.
Rosa’s with Flanagan’s all these authors and all these researchers we’re seeing
that when we correct the upper cervical spine it’s not just the neurology that
we’re affecting. We’re affecting the hemodynamics and the hydrodynamics just
like you said. Dr. Evan and I have done a lot of this research review on this
show already and so it’s interesting to think about both of those
possibilities. Could it be one? It’s potentially both. Neurologically speaking
we could potentially find the pathways of what could be going on with potential
pressure on the brain stem or dysafferentation from the upper cervical joints.
There could be a multitude of explanations which further research could

Dr. Slagel: Yeah. The bigger picture with the hormone
regulation thing is think of all the other different hormone issues that people
have. A lot of different hormone imbalances and things. There’s all kinds of
secondary and tertiary conditions created from all of that.

Dr. Leach: Absolutely.

Dr. Slagel: So if we could pinpoint certain trends in
hormone conditions that we can consistently help with I think it’s just better
for everybody. But we haven’t really started down that road yet as far as
research with with upper cervical, especially NUCCA, we haven’t started with
that research into hormone regulation as a result of correcting that subluxation

Dr. Leach: Right. It’s interesting, again this is completely
anecdotal not in the research, but another patient that we had around that time
he reported that he had tried everything to lose his last 5 to 10 pounds that
he could never get rid of and he said NUCCA care was finally the thing that
helped him lose that. And you think any regular person is going to say what?
How is adjusting the neck help you to lose 5 pounds? But it has to do with
hormones and they understand now the way that you work out, the way that you
challenge your body, has an effect on the hormones. The way that you eat. The
frequency of eating. All these different things that have an effect on your
hormones to all of their risk factors; smoking and obesity. Obesity obviously
there’s a metabolic issue there and that’s gonna affect hormones. And smoking
with all the toxins could potentially affect hormones and all kinds of
different things. And not to mention the stimulant of the nicotine and how
that’s going to affect cortisol in the body etc.

Dr. Slagel: Yeah

Dr. Leach: So yeah. A lot of different things here.

Dr. Slagel: Yeah. So if this is a piece of the puzzle that
needs to be fixed and we got to figure out how this works so that we know who
we can help the best and then we can get them the care that they need.

Dr. Leach: Yeah. It’s interesting to think about to, I try
hard to make sure I don’t over promise things to my patients. It’s real easy
when they come in, “I have neck pain. I have headaches.” All these
things that we’ve helped out with so much to be like – Yeah. We can help you.
It’s always that caveat to say, “If your headaches are related to the
misalignment in your spine and then obviously we’re going to help because
that’s what we’re going to get corrected.”

Dr. Slagel: Yeah.

Dr. Leach: So it’s always thinking about getting to the
cause of why the body is having these symptoms, or conditions, or problems and
that’s why the caveat statement of, “Can we help?” Well. We’ve helped
before but we don’t have an exact test to show that beforehand – yes this NUCCA
care will help, yes this upper cervical care will help with your hot flashes.
It’s like well we can see if you have a misalignment and then we can correct it
and see if you get better. Yeah.

Dr. Slagel: How cool would it be if we had like an upright
MRI or something that measured the hydrodynamics so that we could see..

Dr. Leach: See exactly where.

Dr. Slagel: That’s where it is. Yeah. So then when we
correct this we should see that’s flowing. Proven.

Dr. Leach: That would be phenomenal and it’s possible.
Technology gets better and better every year you. There’s Blair doctors out
there that have cone beam CTs in their office. Who could have imagined ten
years ago that that would happen. So imaging is getting more available. It’s
getting more affordable for smaller clinics to have so the potential there is
pretty good. Maybe not immediately but eventually.

Dr. Slagel:  Yeah. I’m hoping that this
paper just starts to spark some interest in it. I understand this is one case
study and it doesn’t really answer a whole lot of questions. It’s just like –
Hey guys look at this. This happened. Cool. Let’s look at it. So I hope that
sparks interesting and can grow and develop what we do so that we can get the
right people in the door.

Dr. Leach:  Absolutely. I hope it can definitely spark that
research but I hope that it can actually spark those patients that potentially
are significantly suffering from hot flashes. It doesn’t sound like – oh that’s
a big deal – but sometimes it’s really bad and women are off to dinner
with their friends or family and they had this hot flash and they’re just
profusely sweating and it’s embarrassing. It could really help the quality of
life. So yes this is a case study of “N” equals one. There’s
anecdotal stuff but anybody who’s desperate enough that sees this they could
potentially say, “Hey I’m giving it a shot. I’ve tried everything else and
nothing’s helping. I’m going to give this a shot.” And it could
potentially help them. If we can help that one person that’s worth it.

Dr. Slagel: Yeah and I would also say that if anybody has
any other theories, or ideas, or possible mechanisms let me know because I’m
really interested in trying to parse out what exactly is going on here. So
that’s the open invitation.

Dr. Leach: Absolutely. Yeah we can get a conversation going
in the comments section below that would be pretty cool. For sure. Any last
thoughts on the summary about your patient here doc?

Dr. Slagel: That’s all I got I just wanted to make that case
known. So here we are.

Dr. Leach: Awesome. Well thanks for coming on. I appreciate
you sharing your research and writing this up and taking the time. You don’t
get rewarded for this kind of stuff but you put the effort in so I appreciate.
I appreciate it. We appreciate it and I’m sure the people that this is going to
help do appreciate it as well.

Dr. Slagel: Absolutely, man. This was fun thanks for having

Dr. Leach: Awesome. Absolutely we’ll talk to you soon all

Dr. Slagel: All right.

Dr. Leach: Okay. That’s it for this episode. So what did you
learn that fascinated you or surprised you about their research today? Join or
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